Wednesday, January 31, 2007

Craig - Adam / Craig - White Marriages

John Craig and Agnes Adam married in Scotland in 1825. Their daughter, Isabella, married James White 30 years later in Dalhousie, Lanark, Onatrio, Canada. This is a scan of a photocopy that my grandparents had. I do not know who has the originals.


Top:
This is to certify that James White, Lumborer and Isabella Craig, Spinster both of the Township of Dalhousie, were married at the Manse of Dalhousie by James Geggie, Minister
Given this thirty first day of December One thousand Eight hundred & fifty five

Alex McNicol } Witnesses
Marion Park

Bottom:
Low Church Parish, Paisley, Dec 19, 1825.
That John Craig and Agnes Adam both in this Parish, have been regularly proclaimed in order to marriage, and no ojection made is certified

John Craig and Agnes Adam both in the Low Church Parish, Paisley
having produced a Certificate of Proclaimation of Banns, were married this 25th day of Dec 1825 by me, ........., Minister

Tuesday, January 30, 2007

Harry McFry Investigates

I am quite enjoying The Case of the Missing Family, A Harry McFry GPI Mystery, by Thomas Hamburger, Jnr. The first eight chapters have been been great. A Private Eye novel with a genealogical twist. Check it out - a story that makes genealogy seem fun!

From Chapter 3

"Once in the Local History Research room, Harry made for his favourite microfiche reader and threw his coat onto the back of the chair. Before he could even begin to sit down a voice like honey drizzled on a warm croissant reached out to him from the neighbouring machine.

“Mr McFry?”
He turned to his left and saw her for the first time. The eyes that regarded him matched the dress, full and blue; her lips were redder than a number 3 pool ball. She looked like she had poured herself into her dress until it was full to the brim, and then added some more. Her hair was black and hung shining around her shoulders. With difficulty, Harry dragged himself away from the view and replied, “That’s me, Miss . . . McFry?”

“Call me Laurel,” she said quietly, before adding, after an almost imperceptible pause, “cousin.”

And Chapter 5 -

"An uneasy feeling began to creep over him. Whatever was going on here, it didn’t make sense. A mystery call warning him to stay away from the library. Laurel McFry’s insistence that she and he were cousins, and her fanciful notion that her family had been ‘stolen’. And now, this. One thing was for sure, this might not be the open-and-shut case he thought it would."

The plot thickens with chapters 6, 7 and 8. Several twists are added to keep you coming back for more!

Thanks to Chris Dunham for posting this.


Monday, January 29, 2007

Pictures Found

A couple of weeks ago I was lamenting the fact that I had misplaced a group of pictures. Over the weekend I dug to the back of the closet in the office and found the ones I knew I had misplaced and a bunch that I'd forgotten that I had. Here are the Rebekah Lodge, #52 Evening Star, Syracuse, NY, pictures that I believe are from the 1930's and 1940's. The only one I can identify is my grandmother. If you recognize anyone please let me know.


Mary L Berry, back row, far right

Mary L Berry, 4th from left


Mary L Berry, center front


Mary L Berry, front, 2nd from left

Mary L Berry, seated far left

Sunday, January 28, 2007

I Couldn't Have Gotten This Far Without Them!

Much of my research is done on the internet so I really need to give a big thank-you to all those who have transcribed records and newspaper articles that have helped me. Thanks to all who maintain the various sites that I've used. I've received help from many a stranger via various message boards (and hopefully helped some out as well.) There is no way that I can name every person that has published something on Genweb or elsewhere online. This abstract from a newspaper that I found at the Ontario Co Genweb site does not say who it was contributed by. It is only one example of hundreds of similar items that have helped me.

My great-aunt, Arabella Carlisle Osborn, was a member of the DAR and she and / or her husband, Walter W. Osborn, had done quite a bit of research on the Carlisle and Glover branches of the family. Among the papers of my grandfather, Daniel M Carlisle, was a letter he received from his uncle, Walter Osborn, which included a brief genealogy that was invaluable to me when I first started. I might have given up quickly if I hadn't had these few pieces of paper to point me in the right direction.

A cousin, Cecil Camfield, wrote a brief account of my gr-great-grandparents Camfield. It gave me a glimpse into their lives that I never would have gotten from record books. Also included were reminisces of his family that I have not put online as yet. I don't know who asked him to write it down but I'm greatful that they did.

My grandpa Berry tried to interest me in genealogy as a child, without success. He saved copies of all of his correspondence with a distant cousin which pointed me in the right direction for my paternal side. I also have Grandpa's bible in which he carefully recorded family events. He died 14 years before I began my research.

A very distant cousin sent me copies of my gr-great-grandfather, William Wisner's bible. So a big thank-you to Warren.

My Mom has been a huge help not only with her side of the family but also with my father's side. She has shared stories that gave the names on paper some character. We've shared a laugh or two and had a great time discussing "new finds" as I've made them. She was sure our ancestry would trace back to the Mayflower but was only slightly disappointed when it didn't, as there were so many other colorful characters discovered along the way.

There are also many cousins (some newly discovered) that have helped. My family puts up with me and listens patiently as I tell of some new piece of trivia that I've discovered. John, who has no interest in genealogy, keeps my computer running and reminds me to make my backup copies of everything. So I offer a Big Thank You to everyone who has helped me along the way!

Wednesday, January 24, 2007

Milantha Hall Marsh

The Syracuse Herald, Sunday, Feb 4, 1912, page B12

CENTURY OF LIFE PASSED IN PHELPS

Mrs. Milantha Marsh Bright and Active at 100 Years

Birthday of Centenarian

Decendant of One of the Oldest Families in That Section - She Learned to Weave at an Early Age - Traveled Considerably

Special to The Syracuse Herald
Phelps - Feb. 3. - In full possession of her mental faculties and well preserved physically at the age of 100 years, Mrs. Milantha Marsh observed the anniversary of her birth Wednesday. The event, which was celebrated at the home of her granddaughter, Mrs. Eugene Helmer, consisted of a family gathering, with a few near friends present.

Mrs. Marsh was born on January 31st, 1812, at Melvin Hill in the town of Phelps, and has lived a full century in the same township. Her father, John Hall, came to the region from Conway, Mass. in 1798, and her mother, whose marriage to Mr. Hall took place at Melvin Hill a few years after, was from the same New England town. Her maiden name was Serna Swan. Seth Swan, grandfather of Mrs. Marsh, was a soldier in the Revolutionary war and was killed in the Battle of Bunker hill while throwing up breastworks. He was supposed to be the only American killed in that engagement.

Mrs. Marsh is the youngest of five children born to Mr. and Mrs. Hall. She began weaving at the age of 9 years, using a hand loom hewn out of the virgin forest for her mother long before sawmills were introduced into this section of the country. After the death of her father, who was killed in 1824 as the result of a kick from a horse, this occupation was the means of rendering considerable support for the family. At the time of Mr. Hall's death he had under consideration a large frame house and it was the money earned by Mrs. Marsh at weaving that made it's completion possible. The house still stands in an excellent state of preservation. The same hand loom is also in existence and Mrs. Marsh has operated it until very recently.

Mrs. Marsh was married at the age of 23 years to Samuel Marsh, whose parents came to these parts from Rutland, Vt. Six children were born to the couple, five of whom are living. They are Enoch and Edward F Marsh, Miss Eugenia Marsh, Mrs. Calista Hull, and Mrs Louise Sweet, all of Phelps. There are also thirteen grandchildren and eighteen great-grandchildren. Her husband died thirty three yeras ago. Fifteen years ago, after eighty-five years of continuous residence on the farm at Melvin hill, Mrs. Marsh and her daugher, Miss Eugenia, came to Phelps to live.

The centenarian has always enjoyed the best of health and has never had occasion to call upon a physician on account of illness until she had passed her eightieth year and has very few times since. She attributes her long life to her plain and industious mode of living. At present she is enjoying fairly good health, able to care mostly for her own needs, reads without glasses and occasionally goes for a visit with some member of her family. Mrs. Marsh was educated at the Melvin hill school and at the age of 13 years she became a member of the Baptist church of that place. After coming to Phelps she joined the Methodist Episcopal faith, of which she is still an honored member.

After Mrs. Marsh had raised her family she indulged in considerable traveling, about the only recreation she ever cared for. She and her husband took at least ten trips into the far West, and her last journey to that section was made after she had passed four score years in company with her daugher, Miss Eugenia.

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Milantha died in 1914 and is buried in Melvin Hill Cemetery. She had a brother, Olney 1810-1871. So far I have been unable to determine who her other three siblings were.

Monday, January 22, 2007

Playing Tag

I've been tagged by Steve Danko to come up with 5 things about me that you probably don't know. Steve is a hard act to follow!

  1. My jeans have never been to the Smithsonian let alone been on display there. I love to travel, I've worked as a travel agent, but I haven't gotten to Washington yet.
  2. I love cats, however I love my husband more. He's allergic, hence no cats for me.
  3. I spent my teenage summers in the tobacco fields of North Carolina. Thirty-five years later I'm trying to quit smoking - again.
  4. I end up moving on average, every five years. Five years from now I hope to be retired and living someplace tropical.
  5. I have no artistic talent. I do love to sing, however my children beg me not to.


Now I have to tag 5 others:

I tag Nikki Ann, she being the only genealogy blogger of my acquaintance that hasn't been tagged yet.

For the other four I'm going to cheat and repeat this post on my other blog. I tag, Sissy, Kerri, Tammy, and Rodney Olsen.

Sunday, January 21, 2007

Looking for Relief

Relief Carlisle was born November 11, 1803 in Westmoreland, NH, the daughter of Daniel and Zipporah (Wheeler) Carlisle.

I've had Relief on the back burner for some time now. The family left New Hampshire sometime after the 1810 census for New York. Finding records from New York from this era is difficult, if not impossible. From family papers and New Hampshire records I have her date of birth and nothing else.

Years ago I was contacted by a woman who thought Relief may have been the wife of John Nelson. That was when I was just starting to research and hadn't learned to document very well. I recorded the information in my file as more or less fact and that is where I'm still at.

The John Nelson of about the right age, listed on the 1850 census for Lockport, Niagara Co, NY, is married to Mary. The only Relief Nelson's that come up in a search of the 1850 census are mother (b1815, MA) and daughter (b1850) in Galena , IL. This Relief's husband is Horatio.

I next did a search of the 1850 census for the first name, Relief born New Hampshire or New York with no surname and started looking for anything that looked promising. I wouldn't expect her to have returned to NH or VT but that is possible I guess. There were a few I tracked down but none appear to be my Relief.

On the 1810 census, Daniel Carlisle had six daughters. Per family records the seventh daughter, Fanny, was born in 1811. On the 1820 census there are only 5 daughters shown, two were 16-26 and three were under 16. Had one of the oldest three daughters married or died? I can only account for Mahala who married in 1822. So either Relief or her sister Betsey is missing.

Should I actually be looking for Betsey? Will something turn up for Relief? The search continues.

Saturday, January 20, 2007

No Thanks to Geni

I just checked out Geni. If there is such a thing as a weekend genealogist then guess this site might be great. It seems to be more of a networking site than a genealogy site. Where I could see this being a very useful tool is for a group planning a large family reunion.

First you enter your name and email. Then you can add parents and go back as many generations as you'd like. Why would I want to type all of that info in? As far as I can tell the site does not support .ged files for easy transfer of information.

You can add your spouse, siblings and children easily following the arrows. You can add the email address of any person, which generates an invitation to them to join your tree. They can then add people and email addresses to the tree and you have your own little family network that can keep on growing. Your tree is private only those invited can view it.

Here's where I have a problem. The edit tabs allow you to add quite a lot of personal information, birth date, city you were born in. From the main listing you can get my mothers maiden name. I bet you can see where I'm going here. Identity theft isn't prevalent enough, lets give them the info rather than make them steal it!

I have no doubt hackers could have a field day with this site but they aren't my main concern.

I invite my sister, she invites her sister-in-law, who in turn invites her cousin who invites his wife's cousin. Very quickly there are people added to my tree that I do not know, yet they now have access to my personal information. You do not have to fill in your personal info. But let's say my sister sees I left that blank, she can use the edit feature to add it for me.

For right now I think I'll pass but I'll keep the site bookmarked for our next reunion.

Tuesday, January 16, 2007

Need a Wife? Send for a Glover!

My gr-great grandfather, Daniel Carlisle, married Louisa Lambert Glover abt 1830 in Ontario Co, NY. There they had two children before moving on to Orleans Co, NY where they had two more. In 1839 they moved to Cass Co, MI where three more children were born. Louisa died between 1850 and 1852. She was the second of eleven children of David and Tamesin (Hall) Glover. The eleventh child was Hannah Lewis Glover and when her sister died she married her brother-in-law to raise her nieces and nephews.

Daniel Carlisle's sister, Mahala, married Asa W Reed in 1822 as his second wife. They had four children and moved to Ohio where Mahala died about 1835. In 1836 Asa married Susannah Grout Glover, daughter of Edward L. and Ruth (Grout) Glover and first cousin of Louisa and Hannah Glover. Asa Reed's first wife was Lucy Loomis. Susannah's brother, Erastus Glover married Matilda Loomis. I'm not sure what Lucy and Matilda's relationship was.

Osee Crittenden, Jr was the son of Osee and Lydia (Reed) Crittenden. He managed to marry three different Glover's and it took me awhile to get them straightened out. He married 1st, Sarah Salisbury Glover, daughter of Alexander and Sarah (Salisbury) Glover. Four short years and two children later Sarah died.

Osee waited over three years to marry again, which I found surprising as he had two very young sons. His second wife was Rachel Glover, daughter of Gamaliel and Tabitha (Beale) Glover. Rachel's parents and several members of her family died of a "fever" in 1798 so Rachel lived with her Uncle and Aunt, Alexander and Sarah. (Alexander and Sarah also had a daughter named Rachel and that confused things for awhile. Rachel is not mentioned in Alexander's probate records so I guess she died young but I have not found a burial record for her either.) Osee's 2nd wife died after producing another six children.

He remarried quickly this time. Less than a year after Rachel died he took as his 3rd wife Pentha Glover, daughter of Thomas and Rebecca (Stewart) Glover. Thomas Glover was the son of Gamaliel and Tabitha making Osee his brother-in-law, so Osee married his 2nd wife's niece. They had an additional five children and Pentha lived to a ripe old age.

Monday, January 15, 2007

Missing Pictures

I can't remember the last time I used my scanner. The software wasn't installed on this computer. It took me a very long time to find the right driver and get it to work. Before I got to work on that I had to clear it off. Things are looking a bit neater now. I scanned a few things but couldn't find several things I was looking for.


This is the only one of at least three pictures of my Grandmother's Rebekah Lodge, #52 Evening Star, Syracuse, NY, that I could find today. I also found the document below naming her District Deputy President in 1940. I have no idea if this picture is from 1940 or not. My grandmother, Mary L. (Kelly) Berry, is seated on the far left. I have no idea who the other women are. She and the woman standing to her left are each holding some type of wand. Did this mean they were officers at the time? Does she look like she's 39 years old here? I know she was with the Rebekah's for many years. Hopefully I'll locate the other pictures soon so that I can compare them.


Sunday, January 14, 2007

What Do You Keep?

How do you manage the tons of paper that genealogy can generate? At New Years almost everyone had papers to file, desks to clean and papers to organize. I've seen many great tips on how to organize but very few on what to keep.

Documentation has always been a struggle for me. I try to add a source for everything I add to my file but do I need to have all of that info on paper?

My cousin who is just starting out made tons of copies while on her trip and is diligently sorting through all of it now. After she gets everything entered / recorded in her file what does she do with it all? I want to get her off to a good start so help me out here!

Do you keep every copy, every scrap of paper that you've come across? How do you decide what to keep and what to recycle?

Do you print out every record that you find online? Do you simply save an image to your hard drive? Or do you just record the location url as part of your source notes?

Does it matter how close a relation is?

After filing away what you do keep, do you ever go back and look at it again? Can you find it again?

Do you scan all of / part of the paper files you bring home? Do you attach an electronic copy of everything right in your file. TMG has a place to do this and you could use FTM's scrapbook feature. If you do this do you save census records just to the head of the household or do you save a copy in each family members file?

If you transcribe a page of a book or some such, do you also keep a photocopy of that page?

If I had kept a paper copy of everything I've found I would have to my own small library to house it in. I spent quite awhile looking at my files this morning and while they are fairly organized they are full of things I don't think I'll ever look at or need again.

Saturday, January 13, 2007

Remember the Excitement?

Do you remember how exciting it was when you were first starting on your ancestral quest? How every new discovery was exciting. That's where my cousin, Pittsburgh, is right now.

Pittsburgh first contacted me back in the fall after finding my tree at rootsweb. We both descend from Henry & Hannah Glover who were born about 1640 or so, making us seventh cousins once removed! But hey, a cousin's a cousin right?

Her 4th great-grandfather, Alexander Glover 1756-1826, and my 3rd great-grandfather, David Glover 1775-1848, second cousins, both started out from Conway, MA and settled in Phelps, NY. Alexander's son, Philander and his 1st wife Polly Melvin had a daughter, Lamira (my 4th cousin, 3x removed), who married Othniel Hall (my 1st cousin, 4x removed.) Philander later married, as his 2nd wife, my 3rd great-grandaunt, Ruhamah Hall.

Whew! Have you got all that? Even though Pittsburgh and I are very distant cousins I have had a fascination with her Glover branch of the tree and the way it intersects with my Glover / Hall line. I'm also fascinated by the whole group that left Conway for Phelps.

Pittsburgh is just starting out on her quest, she doesn't even have genealogy software yet, but she has already made her first research trip. She has been emailing me with details about her trip, how kind and helpful everyone in Howell, MI were to her and how much information she found. Her excitement is contagious! I have put my Kelly line aside, for now, and I'm back to sorting out Glover's. She came across several Glover's that I don't have in my file and I have found some others that I'm trying to fit into the puzzle. Will they fit in her line? My line? Another line? Let the sorting begin!

Friday, January 12, 2007

Searching In Upstate NY?

Old Fulton NY Postcards

The name of this site is very misleading. The site is the work of Thomas M. Tryniski and does have some Old Fulton NY Post Cards. But wait there is more, much, much more.

Currently he has 2,450,000 searchable newspaper pages available. Not just Fulton papers; there are papers available from across upstate NY. In my Kelly research I found papers from Adams, Watertown, Canton, Ogdensburg and Lowville from Northern NY. There are probably others. I got hits from Fulton, Oswego, Cato, Auburn and Utica from CNY and Rochester & Buffalo form WNY. Again there were probably others that I didn't find. A searching tip: search for an exact phrase or you may get way more hits than you can use.

But that's not all! Take a look at the right side of the screen. I'm not sure what all of that does - maybe someone can tell me - but if you click on the very bottom line "View Fulton Historical Post Cards" you will find links to old post cards but look at the far left column and you will find Cemetery Records of Syracuse and Fulton. Here are the internment records from Mt. Adnah in Fulton, Oakwood Cemetery, Syracuse and Booneville records. You have to hunt through the information but it is all there.

Want more? How about Federal census records for various NY locations. There are a couple of church records available. City Directories for Auburn, Fulton and Oswego. Probate records and yes lots and lots of pictures, not just post cards.

Except for the newspapers I didn't see a way to search but there is so much information there it's certainly worth a look.

Tuesday, January 9, 2007

National Scavanger Hunt!

elementaryhistoryteacher at History is Elementary has issued An Internet Challange!

Here's what we're looking for:


So why are we trying to find this?

It all started in 1930 when the Pennsylvania Railroad, the largest company in the United States until World War I, commissioned the artist, N.C. Wyeth, to complete a series of images for a poster series titled “Building the Nation”. There were supposed to be twelve images but only four were ever known to be completed. Pennsylvania Railroad later became Penn Central and in 1976 was taken over by Conrail.

The White House would love to know the whereabouts of the painting as it is a rare image of George Washington with a scaffolded White House. Wyeth is the only known artist to have painted the White House under construction. Estimates state the painting could be worth well over $1 million dollars.

Posters of the image do exist, however, the original painting the posters were taken from has been lost. The last time the painting was documented was in an Appendix dated 1976 for the Pennsylvania Railroad listing items that were to be turned over to Conrail. The painting was listed as having minor surface damage.

elementaryhistoryteacher seems to think that if we spread the word far and wide that we can find this National Treasure. She has more information about the painting, the search and how to contact her on her blog.

Nothing to post today? Suffering from writers block? Hijack this post like I did and spread the word!

Monday, January 8, 2007

A Break-through

I had a huge break-through on my Kelly line over the weekend and I've been a little obsessed with tracking down the lines to see where they lead. My great-grandfather, James Kelly was born in Adams, NY and moved to Ottawa, Ontario as a young man. From what I understand he was not a good person and my grandmother had very little to do with him so I had very little information to go on. Years ago I found the family on early census records but soon lost track of the line and put it aside. Those census records are recorded in my last post.

This article was what set things in motion:

The Watertown Herald, Dec. 26, 1896, pg 1

Suicide Caused by Drink
ADAMS, Dec. 25 - William Kelly. a man of about 40 years of age, who resided on Liberty street, committed suicide Monday afternoon about 2 o'clock. He had an attack of delerium tremens Sunday night, and after that time was watched closely, as he threatened taking his life. One of his neighbors was sitting with him, and left him alone about 10 minutes, but in that short time he ran to the barn and with a knife cut his throat. Dr. W. H. Nickelson was summoned, but he died soon after the arrival of the doctor. He was a son of Mrs. Mary Kelly and lived here all his life. He leaves a wife and five small children. Coroner Sias, of Ellisburg, was summoned.

He was probably only about 35 years old. His age on the 1870 and 1880 census were both consistant with an 1862 birth.

Next I looked at the 1900 census. In Adams I found only one Kelly widow with several children:

1900 Census, Adams, Jefferson Co, NY, pg 37A, family 355

Mary Kelly head b Jun 1861 ag 38 wd Eng Eng Eng
Phillip son Jan 1881 19 s NY NY Eng
Will son Jul 1886 13 s NY NY Eng
Mammie dau Mar 1890 10 s Ny NY Eng
Hazel dau Dec 1895 5 s NY NY Eng

There were only four children listed. A few pages later I found:

1900 Census, Adams, Jefferson Co, NY, pg 41B, Frank C Raymond’s Hotel
Bert Kelly servant Mar 1883 17 s NY NY Eng Occ – Porter

Certainly not proof that Bert was the fifth child but it seemed right so I kept digging. I found hundreds of references to Bert Kelly while searching the newspaper archives. I hit pay dirt with his obituary:

The Palladium Times, Oswego, NY, September 17, 1960, pg 5

Fulton Deaths

FULTON – Bert H. Kelly, 76, of RD1, died unexpectedly Friday night at his home.

Born in Adams, Mr. Kelly had lived at RD1 45 years and until eight years ago, when he retired, operated a dairy farm. He was a member of Hannibal Lodge 550 F. and A. M.

Surviving are his wife Mrs. Lelah E. Kelly; a son Carroll Kelly of Fulton; a grandson, (name removed); two great-grandchildren and two sisters, Mrs. Hazel Crowder of Jamaica, L. I. and Mrs. Fred Stife (?) of Watertown.

Funeral arrangements are being made by the Foster Funeral Home.

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The Fulton Patriot, Sept. 22, 1960, pg 7


Bert H. Kelly, 76, of Fulton, ………. Suddenly Friday at his home.

Mr. Kelly had lived in the Fulton area 4? years and until eight years ago operated a dairy farm. He was a member of Hannibal Lodge 50 F and A M.

Survivors include his wife, Lilah E. Kelly; a son, Carroll Kelly of Fulton; a grandson and two great-grandsons; and two sisters, Mrs. Hazel Crowder (Crawder?) of Jamaica, L. I. and Mrs. Fred Safe (?) of Watertown.

While still searching for Bert, I found his brother, William's obituary which ties the family back to William Kelly, Sr.:

Undated scrapbook article @ Old Fulton Post Cards abt 1956?

William D. Kelly

William Dwight Kelly, 70, husband of Lucy Barrett Kelly of 92 Erie St., died unexpectedly this morning at Oswego Hospital.

A Native of Adams, he was the son of the late William and Mary Liney Kelly and had lived in Oswego for the last 15 years. For the last nine years he was employed at Oswego Hospital in the maintence department. Mr. Kelly attended First Methodist Church.

Surviving with his wife are three sons, Philip and William Jr., both of Oswego and a step-son, Thomas Flemming of Syracuse; two daughters, Mrs. Catherine May and Mrs. Mary Huseby both of Oswego; two sisters, Mrs. Mammie Streiff, Watertown and Mrs. Hazel Crowder, Jamaica, L. I.; a brother, Bert Kelly, Fulton.

Burial will be in Rural Cemetery.

I will write more about what I found later.


Saturday, January 6, 2007

Kelly Census records 1860-1880

My Kelly family's census records have been very frustrating. Didn't they know when they were born?? Or where they were born??!!


1st found on 1860 census in Adams, Jefferson Co, NY. Pg 74-75, family 638

Michael Kelly age 38 laborer b Ireland $0 r/e $50 p/e
Mary Kelly age 27 housework b Ireland
John age 6 b NC
James age 5 b NY
Phillip age 2 b NY
M A female age 7/12 b NY

John’s birth place definitely begins with N. second letter appears to be C but could be Y. James listing shows NY and Phillip & MA have “
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1870 census, Adams Center, Adams, Jefferson Co, NY, pg 53, family 513
surname looks like Killer or Keller

Michael age 40 day laborer b Ireland $800 r/e - $100 p/e
Mary age 33 keeps house b Ireland
John age 17 works on RR b Canada
James age 13 farm laborer b NY
Philip age 12 at home b NY
Mary age 10 school b NY
William age 8 school b NY
George age 3 school b NY

Michael only 2 years older than in 1860 !?

Mary only aged 6 years since 1860

John was b. Canada, 11 years older than 1860.

James only 8 years older than 1860

M A = Mary Ann
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1880 census, Adams Village, Jefferson Co, NY, pg 12,

family 122
Phillip Kelley age 24 laborer on RR b NY Fa b Ireland Mo b France
Anna M wife age 20 or 21 b NY Fa b Ireland Mo b Ireland
Mina dau age 2 b NY Fa b NY Mo b NY
Nettie dau age 1 b NY Fa b Ny Mo b NY

Family 123
Mary Kelley age 45 keeping house b France Fa b Ireland Mo b Ireland
John son age 25 blacksmith b Canada Fa b Ireland Mo bFrance
James son age 22 carpenter b NY Fa b Ireland Mo b France
George son age 21 at school b NY Fa b Irelnad Mo b France
William son age 18 laborer b NY Fa b Ireland Mo b France

Michael not present, did he die between 1870 & 1880?

Mary now 12 years older than in 1870 and b France? Why didn’t she give that before?

John only aged 8 years since 1870

James 9 years older than 1870

Philip married; also 12 years older than 1870

Mary missing. Did she marry, move out or pass on?

William now younger than George! But he aged 10 years

George has aged 18 years in last 10. Since he is still in school I’m betting this is a mistake. In 1900 he gave his age as 35.

Wednesday, January 3, 2007

Monday, January 1, 2007

Grandma's Diary

I wish I had a diary that belonged to an ancestor. Capt. Daniel Carlisle was supposed to have kept a journal that ended up in Illinois with a grandson. It was rumored that it was given to a library and I should have added tracking it down to my "To Do List"

Since I do not have one of my own I enjoy stopping by Ruth Campbell Smith 1925-27 Diaries.

Ruth's granddaughter, Carol, also has a gardening blog that I enjoy and that is how I found the diaries. She is posting a page a day and sometime adds a bit of commentary. She has also set up a companion blog with pictures of the family. I think this is a great idea for anyone fortunate enough to have such a treasure.